Episode 85
SBP 085: A Field Guide To Smart Advertising. With Dan White.
Welcome back to another episode of the Sleeping Barber Podcast! Today, we’re diving deep into advertising with our returning guest, Dan White. Dan, a marketing and insights innovator, former CMO, and co-developer of Kantar's BrandZ, joins us to discuss his latest book, "The Smart Advertising Book." This episode is packed with insights on evidence-based marketing, the importance of broad vs. narrow targeting, optimal marketing budgets, and the effectiveness of bursting vs. spreading your ad spend. Whether you're a seasoned marketer or just starting, this episode offers invaluable takeaways to enhance your advertising strategies.
Our Guest:
Dan White
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danwhite1000/
Marketing & Insights Innovator
Former CMO, co-developed Kantar’s BrandZ - the world's biggest brand equity measurement system
4-time author of some of the best marketing books in the world
Including the topic of today’s call the Smart Advertising Book
Our Hosts:
Follow our updates here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/
Get in touch with our hosts:
Marc Binkley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbinkley/
Vassilis Douros: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vassilisdouros/
Timestamps:
0:50 - Intro to Dan
2:43 - How does the Smart Advertising fit with his other books
5:36 - Why write this book
7:35 - SMART = Evidence-Based Concepts
9:38 - The evidence for advertising ROI
13:20 - The evidence for demand generation
14:52 - The evidence for making customer switch
17:32 - The biggest driver of purchase behaviour
18:50 - How does advertising really work
22:14 - Why brands work over the long term
25:09 - We’re overcomplicating how branding works
31:09 - Why brand building is the right phrase
32:13 - Why packaging and ad creative need to match
34:37 - Core Concept: Reach v. Frequency
40:15 - Core Concept: Broad v. Narrow Targeting
48:47 - Core Concept: The optimal marketing budget
53:40 - Core Concept: Burst vs.Spreading Spend
58:44 - Find out more about Dan
1:00:44 - Post Pod with V and Marc
Episode Quote:
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Dan White
Show Links:
The Smart Advertising Book https://www.amazon.ca/Smart-Advertising-Book-deliver-advertising/dp/1915951186
Dan’s Website https://www.smartmarketing.me/
Digital Ad Spend https://www.statista.com/statistics/237974/online-advertising-spending-worldwide
